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Today’s quote is from a philosopher: “Among the facts of the universe to be accounted for, it may be said, is Mind; and it is self evident that nothing can have produced Mind but Mind.”
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Identity theft
http://video1.washingtontimes.com/fishwrap/2008/02/bob_geldof_in_rwanda.html
Mr. Geldof praised Mr. Bush for his work in delivering billions to fight disease and poverty in Africa, and blasted the U.S. press for ignoring the achievement.
Mr. Bush, said Mr. Geldof, “has done more than any other president so far.”
“This is the triumph of American policy really,” he said. “It was probably unexpected of the man. It was expected of the nation, but not of the man, but both rose to the occasion.”
“What’s in it for [Mr. Bush]? Absolutely nothing,” Mr. Geldof said.
Mr. Geldof said that the president has failed “to articulate this to Americans” but said he is also “pissed off” at the press for their failure to report on this good news story.
“You guys didn’t pay attention,” Geldof said to a group of reporters from all the major newspapers.
Can we give him a little credit? He hasn’t screwed up everything after all.
As a philosophy major, I feel like I should know this quote… and it does seem familiar. I’ve got nothing, though.
Just Googled it. NEVER would have guessed that. Oh well.
Dear Real,
Probably not….just watch
Charles Darwin?
Real: Perception trumps accomplishment every time. Consider the rise of the great Barak Obama. The new saviour of America. The real man of Hope. The man who will bring significant Change.
NOBODY has hasked what change we will get and what we hope for.
Chas:
Neither do they ask how this “change,” [whatever he actually means] will affect other things in their world or how much it will take out of their paychecks. He never does say what or how much he’s planning to change. A lot of things make up life in America, from what you eat each day to the war in Iraq, just how much of it does the most liberal Senator in Congress intend to take on?
Change just for the sake of change is worthless. If something needs to change, it needs to be a change that will do the most good for the most people. Those living in cold and snow probably want a change in the weather about now, but if it changes too soon, will the daffodils bloom?
No matter who is elected, some things will change and some things will remain the same. We voters need to do our best to see that the people we put in charge come as close as possible to what we want.
You guys can talk all you want about your Obamas, your Hillarys, and your McCains. Here’s some real news:
IRL, Champ Car to Merge
http://tinyurl.com/2v4dtc
Even the most strident Bush Derangemt Syndrome sufferers surely must concede that this President (not unlike a broken clock) is right at least twice a day.
And no mention of Clinton abject failure in Africa? The Somali RANGER deaths of “Blackhawk Down”? The passive neutrality as genocidal tribal rampage piled up a corpse mountain in Rwanda??
It does seem that– irrespective of our intervening to help or staying out of Africa to let the local alliances deal with crises–our governmt is invariably depicted as racist
Well, some would disagree. They might think that mind came from exactly the right mix of elements in pond scum at exactly the time when it was being struck by lightening as a comet from deep space struck it when it was exactly at 98.6 degrees F and then over billions of years of exacting purposeful evolution took over to eventually create a mind as weak as his
STUBOB,
They should have merged with NASCAR or perhaps F1
Patience, Llama.
I love that open wheel stuff. I particularly like Midget racing because you can say “midget” and get away with it.
Friends,
Some of you may have heard, wrongly, that James Madison’s spiritual mentor was the Rev. John Witherspoon, a Calvinist ministers with whom he studied at Princeton University. Madison never credited Witherspoon as a spiritual influence. And Witherspoon didn’t teach, in his political studies, Calvinism but rather rationalism and the principles of the Scottish Enlightenment.
Madison did credit Samuel Clarke, an Anglican Divine, as an influence, however. And this is what the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy has to say about Clarke:
See my latest post on the matter:
http://positiveliberty.com/2008/02/james-madisons-unitarianism.html
As I waited for my appointment today, I read a fascinating short article in Popular Science (RDean is still wrong - this Christian does NOT hate science) about “evaluating” specimens from various city’s sewer system and testing for drugs - whether legal pharmaceuticals or illegal drugs. The results are fascinating…. This research and process is still very new and certainly needs refinement, but it not only points out the rampant drug problem in the country, it also points out a disturbing fact that almost all legal drugs find their way into the water systems because the method of disposal for expired drugs is to flush them down the toilet.
That’s rather scary when you think about it.
Einstein?
I wonder what they do with all that stuff that’s filtered out at water treatment plants?
Hmmmm….
Quote: Freud? Nietzsche? Goethe? (Hey, if I keep this up I am bound to get it right!)
StuBob,
I suspect a regional bias towards open wheel racing on your part.
I’m more of a rally/autoX guy myself. I’m just waiting for my warranty to run out so that I can go buck wild on my car.
Anyone else planning to watch the eclipse tonight?
Yup–it should be visible after supper for us.
Jon Rowe: DANG IT. All my life, I have based ALL my religion and philosophy (not to mention my irrepressible good humor) on the absolutely CRITICAL fact that John Witherspoon was actually one of James Madison’s spiritual mentors.
This is a MAJOR finding. It goofs everything up for me. Now I am all muddled and utterly discombulated; my appetite has disappeared and I am likely to become melancholy and morose.
I may have to stop going to church and become a Maoist because of this.
Pauline, I do plan to take my kids outside to see the eclipse, though maybe not to watch it for long in any one sitting. Temp now is 21 and forecast to bottom out at 4 sometime tonight.
That’s assuming the weather holds. Expecting a clear sky in southeast Michigan in February is a chancy proposition, but the sun is shining now and the forecast gives me hope.
We’ll be driving home from mid-week church activities about the time the easily-seen “umbral” phase begins.
I’ll be trying to see what I can from the window, but at our current temps that’s about it. We have about 5 degrees now and temps will be well below zero by then plus a good wind. We should have clear sky for it. Well, maybe I’ll get brave and venture out for a short quick look.
Pauline,
Yep, should be driving home from pathfinders with plenty of clear sky. Maybe even see the rings of Saturn while we are at it.
We’re having pizza for dinner tonight.
Anyone else having take-out this evening? If so, what kind?
Hey, Sawgunner, will you please drop me an email at [email protected]…
Need to ask you something.
20: Could I sense a Homer Simpson voice in there. BTW, I have a distinguished attorney, a current member of the Unitarian-Universalist Church, who comments on my blogs and he is criticizing me for my limited definition of what is a “Christian.” I limit the understanding of the concept, though, on traditionalist orthodox grounds, i.e., grounds very friendly to the Christianity of folks on these threads.
That led to some subsequent comments which may interest you such as:
And:
To join in:
http://positiveliberty.com/2008/02/what-is-a-christian-redux.html#comments
Let’s all pray that the Navy gets that satellite tonight.
Karen O - I was thinking of pizza earlier in the day but then my mom and I went out for lunch and I had a yummy stir fry meal.
So, hubby gets macaroni and egg (something he loves and I don’t) for dinner and I usually just eat some fruit in the evening when I’ve eaten a big lunch during the day.
VS - What do you mean by “macaroni & egg”?
Mararoni and eggs????
#24
Karen O,
Does it count as take-out if I take it out of Wal-Mart, put it in the over to bake, then take it out to eat?
We’re having their ready-to-bake chicken enchiladas with Spanish rice.
I will say this for the car business. I have never eatern better in a work environment. Today was the President’s Award at the Dealership. We had Rib-Eyes, Turnip Greens, Garlic Cheese Grits and Banana Pudding. (I never would have put turnips and grits with steak, but hey it was free to me). Anyway the General Manager wet the steaks and put Kosher salt and coarse ground black pepper on each side and let them sit out for about an hour and soak up the salt and pepper before he grilled them. Boy were they good. So for dinner tonight? Right now I am just drinking a bottle of water.
Pauline - That kind of counts.
Kim,
I would enjoy the rib-eyes and the garlic cheese grits, but turnip greens and banana pudding?
I had to fill in for our receptionist today, and watched the lunch come in from Subway for a meeting. Wish I got asked to attend lunch meetings more often. Other times they bring in Chinese, Mexican, or pizzas.
I think that missile missed the satellite and hit the moon!
Amphipolis: That is funny. And I bet the Navy called it a partial-success, since the moon is a satellite, too.
Jon Rowe: Who is Homer Simpson? I lamentably am not up on currently acclaimed intellectuals or what passes for deep thinkers these days.
Based on the same sort of reasoning of your lawyer friend, I am pretty sure that Paul must have been okay with internet gambling, too, since he never mentioned it in the NT. And he probably was a-okay with evolution since he never explicitly endorsed the literal seven days of creation in any of his extant writings as well. And it is a pretty sure thing that he did not believe that Mary ever existed either, since he never even mentioned her, not once.
You say this lawyer friend of yours is distinguished? Maybe he is that Homer Simpson guy you were mentioning?
It wasn’t the lawyer who wrote the comment on the Virgin Birth but a commenter who happens to be a thirty-seven year old biologist from Trinidad and Tobago.
The lawyer, btw among other things, earned his Juris Doctor degree with high honors from Duke University School of Law, served on law review and moot court and clerked for the 9th Circuit Ct. of Appeals.
But in any event, what say you? Can you disbelieve in original sin, the trinity, incarnation, atonement, eternal damnation and the infallibility of the Bible and still be a “Christian”? Because this aptly describes the views of many of America’s key “Christian” Founders like Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Franklin and others. Yet, they tended to consider themselves “Christians” and followers of Jesus of Nazareth whom they viewed not as God or the second person in the Trinity but as a great moral teacher, either only human or perhaps some kind of divine being, created by and subordinate to the Father.
I’m actually taking heat from some of my commenters for asserting this belief system not to be “Christianity.”
Since no one guessed it…the quote is by John Stuart Mill.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Stuart_Mill
The lunar eclipse is just about complete here in southern Maine. Saturn and Regulus are visible, one on either side of the moon. It really is a beautiful sight.
It’s a lovely clear night here. The thermometer is saying 20 degrees, but it feels colder than that out on the front porch. I’m pleased to get a really excellent view of the eclipse from my bedroom window - don’t even have to go outside!
Hope you other viewers enjoy the eclipse!
Enjoying the eclipse from inside the house. Lots of attempts with the binos and spotting scope to see the rings on Saturn. Sometimes we think yes, sometimes we think distortion of the tool. But it is beautiful!
Karen - It’s cooked elbow macaroni with some butter and scrambled egg mixture cooked in with it. I think it’s a Pennsylvania Dutch recipe.
We saw the eclipse, but clouds had moved in by the time I started looking for Saturn. Perhaps there was some light cloud cover the whole time - I just checked again and the moon is halfway visible again, and that half is bright enough to light up a small patch of cloudy sky. The moon shows through nicely, but there’s no way I can see anything else.
I didn’t think to look for Saturn. I had supper with a friend after prayer meeting (Olive Garden), and when we got back to church to retrieve her car, she pointed and said, “The moon sure looks funny.” I looked, and then remembered the eclipse and told her. (I only knew about it because of this thread.)
Hmmmm…..Olive Garden - one of my very favorite places - even though I always order the same thing every time I go there. But we don’t get there often as we don’t have one in our area.