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Today’s quote is from a civil rights activist: “If we do not learn to live together as friends, we will die apart as fools.”
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I was just catching up on the later posts on yesterday’s WV thread and saw Kim’s message and some replies. I, too, am 100% sympathetic (I’m in the process of loosing my own mother). However, some comments about Holy Communion alarmed me. Are you all forgetting the meaning and purpose of the Lord’s Supper and the Biblical warning to those who eat and drink unworthily?
MLK, Jr.
How is it that the media is annointing Scotty McClellan as an “insider” when he lacked any clearance to attend the classified pre-war deliberations??
“Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.” ~ On James Earl Fraser’s ‘Guardianship’ (sculpture, 1933-1935) at the National Archives building in Washington DC. The quote above is inscribed on the base. This maxim has also been attributed to Thomas Jefferson, but I have not documented when or where he said this.
Thank you, Sawgunner! This man was not an advisor.
Mommy, you missed that my dad has been baptised he just doesn’t remember when and where because they moved around quite a bit. He has no documentaion. The Pastor offered to baptize him but, my dad was raised with a strong belief in ONE baptism and won’t do it again. Sort of an impasse…
Adios: Enjoy your virtual coffee of the day!
I’m assuming Kim will come here today to let us know what’s what. My heart goes out to Kim, KarenO and now Mommy. I’ve been where you are with different medical problems, but being Daddy’s little girl still fits. I confess after my mother’s death, I had that “I’m an orphan” now moment. Say what you want to say to your parents. I took that opportunity with my dad, and I’m glad I did.
Mommy, if Kim’s dad asks for communion, doesn’t that mean he understands what it means and takes it worthily? I didn’t think anyone was suggesting that he take it just to cover the bases, so to speak.
I had not seen Kim’s post when I posted. She made me smile. They can be stubborn, can’t they?
Thanks Kristin,
I can really use it today!
Kim (and NJL) I did see that. Perhaps I mis-interrupted your comment “the only church he has attended in the last 10 years” to mean that he didn’t attend very often. I would assume that if he attended regularly (and had been baptized) he would be a member and, thus, eligible for communion. My apologies if I assumed too much.
You aren’t saying that a Lutheran (LCMS, I assume) Pastor insisted on a second baptism? That would be quite hard to believe.
So glad to see those children are being returned to their moms but considerable damage has been done, I am sure. As if they did not despise the government enough…
As there is no record of a baptism the Pastor offered to baptize my father. He is coming to see him today. The church I grew up in was Independent Methodist and my father chose during that time not to receive communion. I became Episcopal as a teenager. Communion was never that important to my father until he began attending the Lutheran Church with my stepmother. He has been a full participant in the church except for Communion.
Update: I went to the hospital earlier today. My aunt came up and is with him now. He is being taken for a CT scan. If they can get him strong enough for surgery they will be inserting a feeding tube. His doctor is now pushing things a bit more. Last night when I went back there was a cardiologist in talking to him because his heart rate had dropped some in the ER yesterday. They want to make sure there are no issues there before they start cancer treatment. I feel good about the care he is receiving now. This morning I told him I wanted to hear what the doctors had to say so I could call and report in to the boss (my stepmother). He got a little testy and told me I was going to offend her saying stuff like that. She called about that time so I told her what I said and laughed. She was afraid that she had offended me yesterday. Daddy said my stepbrother has really been riding her about not being too pushy and taking over and letting me have some say, so I guess we are all tap dancing around each other. My stepmother is a retired nurse, so of course she understands and knows more than I do. I did tell her yesterday that I needed her to stop being a nurse and respecting my father’s right to privacy and start being my mother and telling me what I needed to know. She agreed and I think that will be OK as well.
‘Star Trek’ theme composer dies
Travis, thanks for the post. There goes another part of my “childhood.”
Kim, as long as your dad is “testy” or “feisty” — that’s a good thing! And the nutrition will help.
Remember the kid with Aspergers that got voted out of class? Well, they just decided that doesn’t count as emotional abuse so the teacher will be charged with nothing.
She wanted the kid to know how his actions affected the rest of the classroom.
I don’t think she understands his syndrome at all.
A moment of blog silence as we mourn the death of Harvey Corman. Harvey was one of the Carol Burnet show’s “regulars” and I would argue the program owed much of its success to Harvey, Tim and Vicky.
He was 81 years old!
And it did seem as though he had experience or training well beyond tv comedian.
Oops… make that Harvey Herscel Korman, not Corman!
Mommy - 11
You mention - “he would be a member and, thus, eligible for communion.” - My church nor any I have attended except a few Orthodox, would deny anyone taking communion just because they weren’t a member. If we are Believers, Born Again, we are part of the Church at large, and should be able to take communion in any church.
NJL and Sawgunner-
McClellan not an insider? That’s laughable. It was McClellan’s profession to collect and disseminate information about what was happening inside the Administration.
The wheat will be separated from the chaff when he testifies under oath before the House Judiciary Committee. Way too many other people have come out with similar assertions for there not to be some truth in what he’s saying. And he will be motivated to tell the truth under oath, unlike Scooter, because he has already burned any hope of being pardoned if he commits perjury. Should be a good show and just in time for McW’s run.
Victoria,
Several Protestant denominations close their communion in various ways. You and I can say it should be open to all believers, but they’ve made their choices.
I’m sorry, but press secretaries are not advisors, nor are they decisionmakers. They are not policymakers.
Cameron,
Churches can do whatever they like, however I would never intentionally attend a church which deprived a Born Again Believer of the LORD’S Supper, its plain wrong.
23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:
24 And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me.
25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.
26 For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord’s death till he come.
27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.
28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.
29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body.
30 For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.
31 For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.
32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.
33 Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another.
34 And if any man hunger, let him eat at home; that ye come not together unto condemnation. And the rest will I set in order when I come.
1 Corinthians 11
Victoria,
If you read closely, I said I disagreed with the practice. You’re sort of preaching to the choir here.
“I’m sorry, but press secretaries are not advisors, nor are they decisionmakers. They are not policymakers.”
I don’t recall anyone saying they are? Where did you get that idea?
Cameron,
I wanted to make the point so I used Scripture, it wasn’t a matter of “read closely” - Everyone who reads this blog is not the “choir” as we all know -
Vic is iN a GOoD mood this morNing. Go with iT, Cameron.
Godlumps, you keep saying that McClellan was in “insider.” He was not inside the discussions. He was handed the results and told what to say. He was never a decisionmaker.
NJL- I consider him an insider because he was an insider. He worked very closely with the president and members of the administration for many years. True, he was not an adviser or decision maker. That doesn’t make him a less credible witness to these crimes.