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Whirled Views 4.30

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Bon jour!

Today’s quote is from an abolitionist: “Without a struggle, there can be no progress.”

38 Comments to “Whirled Views 4.30”

  1. Frederick Douglass, who also said: “I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence.”

  2. 2. Gravatar by Laura M. 04.30.08 at 8:21 am

    Today is our 4th anniversary. Spring has maybe finally arrived here in SE Minnesota.

  3. 3. Gravatar by kBells 04.30.08 at 8:24 am

    Congratulations.

  4. William Blake!

    Without Contraries is no progression. Attraction and Repulsion, Reason and Energy, Love and Hate, are necessary to Human existence.

    From these contraries spring what the religious call Good & Evil. Good is the passive that obeys Reason. Evil is the active springing from Energy.

  5. Congratulations Laura. I love your name. I was in love with a girl named Laura in the seventh grade. She never knew.

  6. 6. Gravatar by mumsee 04.30.08 at 10:09 am

    Laura M,

    Congratulations. We thought spring had arrived until it snowed again.

    We are off in a few minutes on our trip to see daughter in law graduate and commission into the Air Force in Arizona. We had planned a “grand tour” of five weeks including many lovely sights and friends, but just obtained the judge’s permission to take the kids out of state yesterday. That and a combination of events have put us down to about a week. Bye bye.

  7. In 2015 China will pass the USA as the #1 economy in the world taking the title away from the USA that the US has held since 1890 a total of 125 straight years.

    In 1890, who did the USA take the title of the #1 economy from then - England, France, Germany, Russia?

    Why no. The USA took the crown from none other than China. China had held the #1 economy crown for centuries, yes centuries, before 1890 because the world was basically a subsistence economy before 1890. The industrial revolution allowed the USA’s economy to take over from China’s and technology improvements led by America since then, allowed the US to keep the title. With the world now using the same technologies and China growing rapidly with 1.3 billion people, China will re-assume its natural role as the world’s economic superpower within 7 years.

    Finally, for America haters on the left (and they are all on the left too), the world will be back in balance with the Chinese leading the way as they naturally would and should going forward, probably for centuries, as the evil US slowly spirals downward toward equal poverty for all and certain, horrid death.

    Now, doesn’t this make you America haters all feel better to know the world is coming back into its natural balance and you can feel vindicated knowing that your precious socialism finally won in the end.

    I hope you do start hating China then, even though you agree with them economically, since they will also assume and be responsible for all the world’s problems then. You know you can’t live without drugs and scapegoats :-)

  8. Llama, it also makes me feel good to know that the Chinese bought or stole all the technical knowledge from us. Also, they got all our money by manufacturing things at what we would call slave wages and using the profits to buy our debt. Someday, they will sell that debt and crash our economy.
    Some, my son among them, say they wouldn’t destroy their biggest customer. But they would if it would make them dominant.
    They, unlike a democracy, are not dependent on the opinions of their citizens.

  9. As I pointed out before: We never hear this aspect of the problem, but I’ve heard, and believe, one of the major factors in the rising oil prices is the decline in the value of the dollar on the world market.
    It’s all part of the same problem.

  10. 10. Gravatar by michelle 04.30.08 at 11:23 am

    I leave for China on Tuesday. Can I give you my opinion when I get back?

    Speaking of opinions, the top stories above the fold on our local paper concerned the Rev. Wright and the Rev. Spahr–who made a name for herself by marrying gay couples and standing up to the Presbyterian Church’s ban on doing so. The Presbyterian Church has now switched sides so many times on her I’m not sure what’s up.

    What troubles me, is I don’t think either one of these reverends reflect Jesus–or at least not the Jesus I worship. It’s all about politics and self, not about grace and forgiveness. I can’t see that either one of these “people of the cloth” are doing anything to glorify God. :-(

  11. 11. Gravatar by Kristin Chapman 04.30.08 at 12:13 pm

    Samuel: Enjoy your virtual coffee!

  12. 12. Gravatar by llama 04.30.08 at 12:24 pm

    Chas,

    The US wanted to sell debt. So we did and some was bought buy China - Thew japanese own by far, the most US debt by the way and way more than China. It does not make any difference who the debt is sold to - regardless of the seconomic whack jobs you have listened to.

    We still owe the debt to someone. Once it is sold, the debt sold is on the secondary market. If China dumped our debt all at one time, the only thing that would happen is that China would take a huge financial loss as our debt on the secondary market would then be worth less to any other investor who would want to buy it. It would have to sell at a discount to the next owner.

    If China could actually sell it all at once to someone, which is very doubful, we would still own the new owners the exact same debt. Since debt amount does not change, the effect on the US is zero.

    What would effect the USA is if we defaulted on our debt and could not repay it, also very unlikely since US debt is the gold standard for AAA Debt.

    Pay no attention to whack jobs who do not know or care to know economics.

  13. Yesterday I asked for prayer concerning my sister.

    She passed away early this morning. She died knowing the Lord and very peacefully. I have total confidence that I will see her someday in glory.

    Thanks for all the prayers and support yesterday. It meant a lot to me.

  14. 14. Gravatar by klasko 04.30.08 at 12:59 pm

    Oh, Kyle, I am very sorry for your loss. My prayers are with you and your family.

  15. 15. Gravatar by michelle 04.30.08 at 1:18 pm

    We weep with those who weep, and mourn with those who mourn. I’ll continue to pray for your family, Kyle.

  16. 16. Gravatar by kimberly 04.30.08 at 1:22 pm

    Michelle–
    Enjoy your trip to China.

  17. Kyle A, what a blessing to know there will be a future reunion! What a grief to have for now! May you feel God’s peace and comfort.

  18. Kyle:

    Death - :(

    Resurrection - :)

    My condolensces to you and your family. I have a very ill sister at this time and may be looking at being in your place soon.

  19. 19. Gravatar by Chas 04.30.08 at 2:13 pm

    Kyle, I’m sorry for your loss.

    Llama, interesting, I need to get back later.

  20. 20. Gravatar by grandma 04.30.08 at 2:24 pm

    Kyle,

    May the God of all comfort, comfort you at this time and give you peace.

  21. 21. Gravatar by grandma 04.30.08 at 2:30 pm

    Michelle,

    Please do give a report when you get back. We have friends who in China working as an ESL teacher and Veterinarian. They love the people, and have been able to share the gospel with many.

  22. 22. Gravatar by NJLawyer 04.30.08 at 3:16 pm

    Kyle, I add my condolences and prayers to those posted above. Your sister is free. Your memories of her and all the good times you had together will sustain you.

  23. 23. Gravatar by Victoria 04.30.08 at 3:18 pm

    God bless you Kyle and comfort you.

  24. 24. Gravatar by mmacmurray 04.30.08 at 3:25 pm

    Kyle, I’m sorry. May you and your family know the peace and comfort of our heavenly Father in the days ahead.

  25. 25. Gravatar by mmacmurray 04.30.08 at 3:27 pm

    Ivan the Terrible, if you’re around today - I noticed your reference to college on the B.A. thread and wondered when you were there (if you don’t mind my asking). I graduated from that school in ‘89.

  26. 26. Gravatar by Chas 04.30.08 at 3:34 pm

    Llama, that makes sense. I hear you saying that it doesn’t matter who we owe the debt to, but it does matter that we owe it.

    What would happen than, is that China would sell it’s debt and someone would buy it at a discount, including some of us. It doesn’t matter as long as the payments were made.

    (I say the same thing about stock. I don’t really care, at this point, what Dominion Resources does as long as they pay a good dividend.)

    Would you agree that the weakness of the dollar is influencing the price of oil?

  27. 27. Gravatar by Chas 04.30.08 at 3:39 pm

    Michelle, I would be interested in what you see. A lady (wife of a member) gave us a long review of a trip she made to China, but it was mostly a travelogue of the wonderful things there. I am especially interested in how much real freedom they have.
    I have a theory that a nation “can’t be half slave and half free.” That is, you can’t have a free market economy in a repressed society.

    Llama, would you agree with that?

  28. 28. Gravatar by Karen O 04.30.08 at 3:42 pm

    Kyle - My prayers are with you, too.

  29. Kyle,

    So sorry for your loss. Good to know she’s with the Lord and out of pain though. We’ll be praying for you.

  30. Kyle,

    Very sorry for your loss, but I understand that the rejoicing part is there too. (Read 1 Corinthians 15 sometime soon–it has always been meaningful, but was extra sweet to me the week after Mom died.) I’ve been praying for you, and will continue to do so. Thanks for letting us know.

  31. 31. Gravatar by Harris 04.30.08 at 6:31 pm

    Kyle — you are in my prayers.

  32. Kyle, I logged on to say I was having a really hard/bad day, then I read your post. I am truly sorry for your loss. I am an only child, but I understand that losing a sibling is very hard. I know it really shook my dad up to lose his sister several years ago and they weren’t particularly close.

  33. 33. Gravatar by Chas 04.30.08 at 8:12 pm

    Cameron: I answered a question you asked back on the “How much do you think he makes” thread. I had almost forgotten about that thread.
    I am using the technique you and Grandma suggested, but not here.

    Kim, I’m sorry. I pray for you often. I hope it works out for you. I know you’re glad missie is gone.

  34. 34. Gravatar by kBells 04.30.08 at 11:14 pm

    Kyle, you are in my prayers.

  35. 35. Gravatar by kBells 04.30.08 at 11:14 pm

    You too Kim.

  36. Chas writes: “China… I am especially interested in how much real freedom they have.”

    Randy Alcorn’s book, “Safely Home” gave me a better understanding of this! I highly recommend it.

  37. My parents went to China, but I never found out much from them. They were in a group that also included a woman missionary and were given a tape of the trip that she made. I asked to watch it, but my mother just said I would never understand it without her explaining it. That never happened. She took no pictures.

    She took two pictures in Europe and when I asked her what they were of, she had no idea! lol! A friend went with her on one of her trips to Europe and later told me that with my mom, it should have been called “running through Europe” instead of touring through.

    She recently toured Russia and brought home several guidebooks. They were interesting, but not as interesting as hearing some stories would have been.

    I have read “Safely Home”. I would love to hear a first hand account with someone who knows not is all as it seems.

  38. Our corporation acquired a Chinese company a couple of years ago, and several of my co-workers have spent quite a bit of time there helping set up the IT infrastructure. We also had a speaker at our church last year who is teaching English over there, and taking opportunities to share her faith. From what these people have shared, the degree of freedom in China varies widely depending where you live. It’s a huge country, and the people running the regional/local government have a lot more to do with what life is like in that area than policies written in Beijing. Some places there is a lot of freedom. Some places there is a lot of oppression.