Comments on: A time to speak http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/24/a-time-to-speak/ A daily webzine and forum for discussion of news that arises at the intersection of religion and culture Fri, 30 May 2008 04:49:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: Flaming Icarus http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/24/a-time-to-speak/#comment-266114 Flaming Icarus Fri, 25 Jan 2008 02:01:29 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/24/a-time-to-speak/#comment-266114 Makes me wonder if the "fire and brimstone" way ever really works on people. I think such a "highhanded" approach often repels people from discovering any more about the Bible than just "those" passages. Makes me wonder if the “fire and brimstone” way ever really works on people. I think such a “highhanded” approach often repels people from discovering any more about the Bible than just “those” passages.

]]> By: Karen O http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/24/a-time-to-speak/#comment-266092 Karen O Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:46:49 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/24/a-time-to-speak/#comment-266092 Llama - I believe that sometimes God answers our prayers by directing us to the right medication, or other such help. So your prayers <b>were</b> answered, just not the way you expected. Llama - I believe that sometimes God answers our prayers by directing us to the right medication, or other such help. So your prayers were answered, just not the way you expected.

]]> By: llama http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/24/a-time-to-speak/#comment-266075 llama Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:08:53 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/24/a-time-to-speak/#comment-266075 #5 Outkast, Chantix worked well for my smoking habit when prayers went unanswered but, after the bad press it has received by folks wanting to sue the manufacturer claiming they tried to commit suicide as a Chantix side effect, maybe I should get on the gravy train with the rest of cons and be paid millions for stopping this habit :-) #5 Outkast,

Chantix worked well for my smoking habit when prayers went unanswered but, after the bad press it has received by folks wanting to sue the manufacturer claiming they tried to commit suicide as a Chantix side effect, maybe I should get on the gravy train with the rest of cons and be paid millions for stopping this habit :-)

]]> By: Genie http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/24/a-time-to-speak/#comment-265967 Genie Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:55:09 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/24/a-time-to-speak/#comment-265967 Andree had a column once talking about "lame evangelism" (that there is no such thing really, but though some of our techniques seem rather wimpy, God is the powerful one, changing hearts that will be changed). This wonderful story above illustrates the power of Almighty God to work a miracle of heart and will when some is led to the trough of the Word of God. The counselor showed him the Word and God did the rest. Wonderful! Andree had a column once talking about “lame evangelism” (that there is no such thing really, but though some of our techniques seem rather wimpy, God is the powerful one, changing hearts that will be changed). This wonderful story above illustrates the power of Almighty God to work a miracle of heart and will when some is led to the trough of the Word of God. The counselor showed him the Word and God did the rest. Wonderful!

]]> By: BT http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/24/a-time-to-speak/#comment-265868 BT Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:02:04 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/24/a-time-to-speak/#comment-265868 Rational Recovery is for people who don't like the God-talk of AA or NA. But even the "god" of AA or NA is a god - or higher power - however you conceive him or it? Not the God of the Bible. As a result, other organizations have popped up using the AA /NA model but with explicit references to Jesus as God. I seriously think some addictions involve a demonic component. They tend to bring out the worst in people and always lead downward. I've heard the word from which we get pharmacy actually derives from the word for socery (perhaps in the original Greek?). Not that drugs are inherently bad but if they are used for the wrong reason - for the express purpose of escaping reality to get high - perhaps they open a door to more than just the potential for addiction? Rational Recovery is for people who don’t like the God-talk of AA or NA. But even the “god” of AA or NA is a god - or higher power - however you conceive him or it? Not the God of the Bible. As a result, other organizations have popped up using the AA /NA model but with explicit references to Jesus as God. I seriously think some addictions involve a demonic component. They tend to bring out the worst in people and always lead downward. I’ve heard the word from which we get pharmacy actually derives from the word for socery (perhaps in the original Greek?). Not that drugs are inherently bad but if they are used for the wrong reason - for the express purpose of escaping reality to get high - perhaps they open a door to more than just the potential for addiction?

]]> By: outkast http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/24/a-time-to-speak/#comment-265831 outkast Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:53:56 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/24/a-time-to-speak/#comment-265831 Christ is always the best path to <b>free</b> oneself from addictions. Christ is always the best path to free oneself from addictions.

]]> By: outkast http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/24/a-time-to-speak/#comment-265830 outkast Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:52:54 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/24/a-time-to-speak/#comment-265830 Christ is always the best path to from oneself from addictions. Christ is always the best path to from oneself from addictions.

]]> By: StuBob http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/24/a-time-to-speak/#comment-265827 StuBob Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:49:57 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/24/a-time-to-speak/#comment-265827 Galations 5 says, ". . .The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love. . ." The question should always be, "How do I best love this person?" Galations 5 says, “. . .The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love. . .”

The question should always be, “How do I best love this person?”

]]> By: Night Train http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/24/a-time-to-speak/#comment-265819 Night Train Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:36:17 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/24/a-time-to-speak/#comment-265819 Religion does seem to be useful in helping people break addictions. At least in some cases. Many people who depend on Jesus relapse just like others. But many people feel that AA has become a religion in itself, pretty much a religious cult. From what I've seen of it, it's pretty hard to argue with that view. But lately there are more and more approaches to breaking the heavy drinking habit that reject the Jesus or Higher Power approach out of hand. Rational Recovery is one. I don't know much about it. There are books about it, which don't cost much, but I think the seminar costs like $5000. Sounds like anti-religion can be a pretty lucrative racket itself. But lots of people who couldn't stomach the religious approach have been able to quit drinking with Rational Recovery. Religion does seem to be useful in helping people break addictions. At least in some cases. Many people who depend on Jesus relapse just like others. But many people feel that AA has become a religion in itself, pretty much a religious cult. From what I’ve seen of it, it’s pretty hard to argue with that view. But lately there are more and more approaches to breaking the heavy drinking habit that reject the Jesus or Higher Power approach out of hand. Rational Recovery is one. I don’t know much about it. There are books about it, which don’t cost much, but I think the seminar costs like $5000. Sounds like anti-religion can be a pretty lucrative racket itself. But lots of people who couldn’t stomach the religious approach have been able to quit drinking with Rational Recovery.

]]> By: klasko http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/24/a-time-to-speak/#comment-265793 klasko Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:21:06 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/24/a-time-to-speak/#comment-265793 And that is the difference between preaching at and coming alongside to disciple. And that is the difference between preaching at and coming alongside to disciple.

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