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		<title>By: rdean</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/12/15/what-if/#comment-252951</link>
		<dc:creator>rdean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: rdean</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/12/15/what-if/#comment-252949</link>
		<dc:creator>rdean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Project Runway is a show about aspiring fashion designers.  What not interested in the field, while "channel surfing" I watched and episode and marveled at how much these people loved what they were doing.  They were only to happy to show it off.  The same thing applies to engineering.  Showing off a new piece of equipment would certainly give the same type of feeling of accomplishment.

RDEAN, do you believe in global warming?

Earth's climate has changed.  It's dynamic and is always changing.  We have historical proof of that.  North polor ice caps are almost gone.  Greenland glaciers are receding (whether that due to suspected global warming or the rise of magma under the ground, who knows?).
We need more study.  Unfortunately, under this administration, nearly every top scientist has quit.  This has been reported in science and engineering magazines for over the last 6 years.  It seems they have been threatened by this administration to change their date to match administration policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Project Runway is a show about aspiring fashion designers.  What not interested in the field, while &#8220;channel surfing&#8221; I watched and episode and marveled at how much these people loved what they were doing.  They were only to happy to show it off.  The same thing applies to engineering.  Showing off a new piece of equipment would certainly give the same type of feeling of accomplishment.</p>
<p>RDEAN, do you believe in global warming?</p>
<p>Earth&#8217;s climate has changed.  It&#8217;s dynamic and is always changing.  We have historical proof of that.  North polor ice caps are almost gone.  Greenland glaciers are receding (whether that due to suspected global warming or the rise of magma under the ground, who knows?).<br />
We need more study.  Unfortunately, under this administration, nearly every top scientist has quit.  This has been reported in science and engineering magazines for over the last 6 years.  It seems they have been threatened by this administration to change their date to match administration policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Rio</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/12/15/what-if/#comment-252803</link>
		<dc:creator>Rio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 03:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another debate coming?
RDEAN, do you believe in global warming?
It sounds that you might by the way you phrased your post. Just wondering...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another debate coming?<br />
RDEAN, do you believe in global warming?<br />
It sounds that you might by the way you phrased your post. Just wondering&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pauline</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/12/15/what-if/#comment-252794</link>
		<dc:creator>Pauline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 03:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RDean,
Our father was an actuary (like his father before him), and both of us decided very early that we had no desire to follow in his footsteps. It could be just the company he worked for (since purchased by CIGNA), but he was always under tremendous pressure to get more work done. I don't know if there was ever a night he didn't bring work home. They eventually forced him to take an early retirement, saying he was no longer meeting quota. His explanation to us was that he was the senior member of the department, and as the most experienced he spent a good deal of time helping the junior members with work they were having trouble with, and management wasn't taking that into account in regards to his productivity. He also suspected their goal was to bring in young people whom they could pay entry level salaries.

I'm not familiar with "project runway." My son's real love is music, but he realizes that it's quite difficult to make a living as a performer, and he doesn't think he could deal with young children well enough to teach. I've been encouraging to look at music technology, which would combine his interest in music and science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RDean,<br />
Our father was an actuary (like his father before him), and both of us decided very early that we had no desire to follow in his footsteps. It could be just the company he worked for (since purchased by CIGNA), but he was always under tremendous pressure to get more work done. I don&#8217;t know if there was ever a night he didn&#8217;t bring work home. They eventually forced him to take an early retirement, saying he was no longer meeting quota. His explanation to us was that he was the senior member of the department, and as the most experienced he spent a good deal of time helping the junior members with work they were having trouble with, and management wasn&#8217;t taking that into account in regards to his productivity. He also suspected their goal was to bring in young people whom they could pay entry level salaries.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not familiar with &#8220;project runway.&#8221; My son&#8217;s real love is music, but he realizes that it&#8217;s quite difficult to make a living as a performer, and he doesn&#8217;t think he could deal with young children well enough to teach. I&#8217;ve been encouraging to look at music technology, which would combine his interest in music and science.</p>
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		<title>By: rdean</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/12/15/what-if/#comment-252792</link>
		<dc:creator>rdean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 03:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/12/15/what-if/#comment-252792</guid>
		<description>He likes science well enough

Tell him to check out engineering.  It's like "project runway".  Designing equipment that people build and sell.  You get to walk around it and say, I designed this and all those people built it.  You end up supporting hundreds of working families.  If you get a job in the right place, you are incredibly well respected.

there was little one could do with pure math without advanced degrees

If you can get through ten hours of Calculus and at least three more of Differential Linear Equations, you could become an actuary.  Depending on the job, they travel and meet all kinds of people.  They basically figure out insurance policy rates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He likes science well enough</p>
<p>Tell him to check out engineering.  It&#8217;s like &#8220;project runway&#8221;.  Designing equipment that people build and sell.  You get to walk around it and say, I designed this and all those people built it.  You end up supporting hundreds of working families.  If you get a job in the right place, you are incredibly well respected.</p>
<p>there was little one could do with pure math without advanced degrees</p>
<p>If you can get through ten hours of Calculus and at least three more of Differential Linear Equations, you could become an actuary.  Depending on the job, they travel and meet all kinds of people.  They basically figure out insurance policy rates.</p>
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		<title>By: Pauline</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/12/15/what-if/#comment-252670</link>
		<dc:creator>Pauline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I avoided math and science in college because they were boring. I had taken the most advanced classes my high school offered (AP level classes) and they all seemed to amount to picking the right formula for the right problem and solving it. Except for chemistry, I aced them easily. (And I did get an A in the college-level chemistry course, I just had to work for it.) Doing that for a job sounded terribly monotonous.

I realize now that I probably could have enjoyed a career in science. (I have my doubts about math; my sister got a degree in math from RPI, but discovered there was little one could do with pure math without advanced degrees - today she is happily employed as a proofreader for a company that produces educational films.) 

My 15-year-old son is in much the same position I was. He gets all A's, but hasn't heard of any type of career that particularly attracts him. He likes science well enough, but doesn't have my husband's passion for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I avoided math and science in college because they were boring. I had taken the most advanced classes my high school offered (AP level classes) and they all seemed to amount to picking the right formula for the right problem and solving it. Except for chemistry, I aced them easily. (And I did get an A in the college-level chemistry course, I just had to work for it.) Doing that for a job sounded terribly monotonous.</p>
<p>I realize now that I probably could have enjoyed a career in science. (I have my doubts about math; my sister got a degree in math from RPI, but discovered there was little one could do with pure math without advanced degrees - today she is happily employed as a proofreader for a company that produces educational films.) </p>
<p>My 15-year-old son is in much the same position I was. He gets all A&#8217;s, but hasn&#8217;t heard of any type of career that particularly attracts him. He likes science well enough, but doesn&#8217;t have my husband&#8217;s passion for it.</p>
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		<title>By: rdean</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/12/15/what-if/#comment-252658</link>
		<dc:creator>rdean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/12/15/what-if/#comment-252658</guid>
		<description>#34:  The reason why young people avoid math and science is that they do not want to be labeled geeks.

That is certainly part of the truth.  If you watch movies in the thirties and forties, smart children were portrayed as "geeks", just like today.

In the fifties, the Soviet Union put a satellite in orbit over the US.  This caused an uproar in the US.  The country was in danger.  Everyone wanted his or her son or daughter to be a scientist.  If you watch old episodes of "Leave it to Beaver" or "Father Knows Best", or even movies, the kids always had a "Science Fair" project.  Scientists in the movies were young, handsome and virile.

The US became the world leaders of technology.

That lead is slipping away.

Flash forward to now.  You have those that want to add “supernatural” to the definition of “science”.  When scientists talk about the possibility of “global warming” they are called liars or laughed at for not having all the answers.  They are given names like geek and nerd.

And yet, whom do people look towards for solving the world’s problems.  They may “pray” to some mysterious and unseen God.  But they expect “answers from scientists and when the answers can’t be provided, they get angry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#34:  The reason why young people avoid math and science is that they do not want to be labeled geeks.</p>
<p>That is certainly part of the truth.  If you watch movies in the thirties and forties, smart children were portrayed as &#8220;geeks&#8221;, just like today.</p>
<p>In the fifties, the Soviet Union put a satellite in orbit over the US.  This caused an uproar in the US.  The country was in danger.  Everyone wanted his or her son or daughter to be a scientist.  If you watch old episodes of &#8220;Leave it to Beaver&#8221; or &#8220;Father Knows Best&#8221;, or even movies, the kids always had a &#8220;Science Fair&#8221; project.  Scientists in the movies were young, handsome and virile.</p>
<p>The US became the world leaders of technology.</p>
<p>That lead is slipping away.</p>
<p>Flash forward to now.  You have those that want to add “supernatural” to the definition of “science”.  When scientists talk about the possibility of “global warming” they are called liars or laughed at for not having all the answers.  They are given names like geek and nerd.</p>
<p>And yet, whom do people look towards for solving the world’s problems.  They may “pray” to some mysterious and unseen God.  But they expect “answers from scientists and when the answers can’t be provided, they get angry.</p>
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		<title>By: Amphipolis</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/12/15/what-if/#comment-252561</link>
		<dc:creator>Amphipolis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 19:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/12/15/what-if/#comment-252561</guid>
		<description>The reason why young people avoid math and science is that they do not want to be labeled geeks.</description>
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		<title>By: Amphipolis</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/12/15/what-if/#comment-252559</link>
		<dc:creator>Amphipolis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 19:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Nevertheless, on the education front, Christians are already winning victories in the culture war.&lt;/i&gt;

I'd like to see it but no examples are provided. I do see a lot of what is described in the paragraph before.

If your child is not challenged in school, whatever that may be, there is a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Nevertheless, on the education front, Christians are already winning victories in the culture war.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see it but no examples are provided. I do see a lot of what is described in the paragraph before.</p>
<p>If your child is not challenged in school, whatever that may be, there is a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: trr</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/12/15/what-if/#comment-252340</link>
		<dc:creator>trr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 22:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The authors are Robert and Ellen Kaplan.</description>
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