Higher education true/false test
The average American seems to have a real misunderstanding of higher education, including what it is and what it’s supposed to be. In an essay titled “Over Invested and Over Priced,” economics professor Richard Vedder looks at the following propositions and explains why they are false:
1. Since college graduates are substantially more productive than non-graduates, the country gains from policies that further promote college attendance.
2. Graduates have higher earnings due to the human capital they gain in college.
3. States can give themselves an economic boost by investing in their colleges and universities.
4. It’s just about impossible to lower the cost of college education.
Here’s a review of the essay, and here’s the essay itself. I’d start with the review.















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Can someone tell me what that guy is looking at?
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Fewer pronouns, more specifics: can you rephrase your question, rdean?
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The problem is that some people go into debt to attend college, but then find that the only majors they qualify for are things that don’t earn any money. It would have been better for them to just go into a skilled trade. But instead we have clerks at Avis with marketing degrees.
Certainly there’s a correlation between educations and earnings, but it’s not necessarily a causation. People who are motivated and smart have more earning potential, and they go to college to get the tools that enable them to act on their potential, and also because they just love learning. Others just slog their way through to get a sheepskin, thinking they’ll trip over a bag of money when they graduate. These people can be identified by statements like “I’m paying this place to teach me to make money”.
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I’m 52 years old, with a chemical engineering degree. I have been taking one university course a semester for as long as I can remember, current working on an electrical engineering degree. I’m sympathetic to some of the particulars discussed in these essays. For example, regarding tenure, some of my worst instructors have been tenured professors who didn’t appear to care anymore about teaching.
However, I wasn’t comfortable with the tone of these articles. Just look at the keywords in the four propositions above, suggested for evaluating the worth of higher education: (1) “productivity”, (2)”earnings”, (3) “economic”, and (4) “cost”. The fact that the monetary bottom line is becoming the measure we now use to determine the value of learning and education seems to me to be another symptom of our increasingly soulless culture.
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We would benefit from everyone going to college only if life were something that really needed a college degree. It is not.
Academically talented kids should go! Vocationally talented kids (and thus our society) would be better off if they got good vocational training.
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KRM
I agree with you, and have made that comment many times, many kids have no reason to attend college, they would do much better, have a happier life if they received vocational training.
Listening to young people talk about careers which involve years of study, parents who believe their ‘children can become whatever they desire,’ is a shame. Kids have false hopes many times and parents feed the ideas, knowing full well, that their children are not capable of attaining their goals.
We watched one set of parents who urged their child to go on (after obtaining a teaching credential) trying to get into law school, and a very prestegious one at that. It was embarrassing to listen to the parents and their daughter. This goes on more often than not.
I was out shopping for some shoes a few months ago, a woman about 28 or so had helped me in the past, very lovely person. She constantly talked of applying for jobs which were clearly out of her realm, even with her degree.
I strongly believe parents need to be realistic about their children’s abilities, the cost of education, and if the child truly is able to reach their goals.
One of the talented cousins in my family, is a Scientist, she is beyond bright, she just keeps going ahead. Every single dollar her parents spent has been a great investment in her future. Her abilities were obvious from the beginning.
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KRM
I misspelled prestigious ….LOL
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I agree that we need to remove the stigma of vocational training.
Many skilled tradesmen make far more than I could ever dream of with an English/education degree.
I once taught a student in freshman honors English. She complained about the short (2 page) essay assignment, and she questioned the need to complete it. I told her that if for no other reason, I was preparing her for college (since it was an AP-track course).
She replied, “I’m not going to college. I’m going to law school and be a lawyer.”
Needless to say, she didn’t remain in the track for very long.
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This essay makes some good points, but as Alan pointed out, his measuring of higher education in simple monetary terms is disturbing. As an English graduate student, I can also say that his understanding of graduate programs is flawed. Graduate students may not directly make the university money, but by teaching classes and performing other necessary services, graduate students provide skilled labor to the university at a large discount. His fundamental flaw, however, is seeing school as a means to a higher income. While that is the attitude of many in America, including many college students, it leads to radically wrong ideas of learning and college.
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I agree about removing the stigma of vocational training.
Also, I wish many people could get over the misconception that the kids who need to go to college are bright, but the others aren’t as bright.
There are many very intelligent people who have not gone to college, for various reasons. Some of them are called to vocations for which college is not necessary, but continue to learn their whole lives through.
I am sensitive to this for a couple reasons. One is that I did not go to college. I was told in high school that my IQ is “way above average”, & I could have done well in college, but life did not go in that direction for me. As an avid reader, I have continued to enjoy learning, & challenging my mind.
The 2nd reason is because certain people in my family really do believe that those who go to college are more intelligent, & even “better”, than those who don’t.
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I was one of a few academically gifted ones in a “blue collar” family (HS in 3 years; college in 3; my doctorate at 24). The “blue collar” ones who saw their aptitudes realistically went into trades like everyone before us and have done quite well and are very happy (and making as much or more than the high acheiver students).
They are valuable members of the community and contribute with their skills (they can fix the widow’s plumbing, I can help with taxes or estate planning or other needs – or hold the flashlight and pass the blue collar guys the tools).
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KRM – My husband is a blue collar worker – literally! His uniform (as a route sales/deliverer of bread products) is indeed blue.
He went to college (Johnson & Wales Univ.) & was a chef-manager for a while. But he truly enjoys his current job so much more than the hassle of management.
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Some of my “blue collar” relatives own their own businesses (I incorporatred some of them) – general contracting, plumbing, tuckpointing. They made more (faster) than many of my lawyer and doctor/dentist friends.
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#10
I am in agreement with Karen. We seize upon very superficial ways of evaluating people’s value and ability to contribute to society.
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