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	<title>Comments on: St. Paul on Leno</title>
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		<title>By: Wiglaf</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/31/st-paul-on-leno/#comment-235024</link>
		<dc:creator>Wiglaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/31/st-paul-on-leno/#comment-235024</guid>
		<description>Random Name,
Irregardless, you get my point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Random Name,<br />
Irregardless, you get my point.</p>
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		<title>By: Xion</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/31/st-paul-on-leno/#comment-234841</link>
		<dc:creator>Xion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 02:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/31/st-paul-on-leno/#comment-234841</guid>
		<description>My son does valet parking at a restaurant in NH.  Ron Paul went there and parked in a handicapped spot.  Is he handicapped?  I think not!  Anyway his beat up little Pontiac was crunched later by a big pickup truck.  This had nothing to do with the valets.  Both customers parked their own cars.  Welcome to NH Ron Paul, (even though you aren't handicapped)!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My son does valet parking at a restaurant in NH.  Ron Paul went there and parked in a handicapped spot.  Is he handicapped?  I think not!  Anyway his beat up little Pontiac was crunched later by a big pickup truck.  This had nothing to do with the valets.  Both customers parked their own cars.  Welcome to NH Ron Paul, (even though you aren&#8217;t handicapped)!</p>
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		<title>By: Random Name</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/31/st-paul-on-leno/#comment-234088</link>
		<dc:creator>Random Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 13:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/31/st-paul-on-leno/#comment-234088</guid>
		<description>#26

I am not familiar with the political office of "regardless."

However, I regard Ron Paul as well qualified for it, re...

Never mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#26</p>
<p>I am not familiar with the political office of &#8220;regardless.&#8221;</p>
<p>However, I regard Ron Paul as well qualified for it, re&#8230;</p>
<p>Never mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Polites</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/31/st-paul-on-leno/#comment-234036</link>
		<dc:creator>Polites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Nov 2007 04:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/31/st-paul-on-leno/#comment-234036</guid>
		<description>David L,

Your inference that fringe group support of Ron Paul raises suspicion is a logical fallacy, commonly referred to as &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy" rel="nofollow"&gt;guilt by association&lt;/a&gt; as an &lt;em&gt;ad hominem&lt;/em&gt;.  The form follows:

    A makes claim P.
    Bs also make claim P.
    Therefore, A is a B. 

Just so you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David L,</p>
<p>Your inference that fringe group support of Ron Paul raises suspicion is a logical fallacy, commonly referred to as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy" rel="nofollow">guilt by association</a> as an <em>ad hominem</em>.  The form follows:</p>
<p>    A makes claim P.<br />
    Bs also make claim P.<br />
    Therefore, A is a B. </p>
<p>Just so you know.</p>
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		<title>By: Wiglaf</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/31/st-paul-on-leno/#comment-233938</link>
		<dc:creator>Wiglaf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/31/st-paul-on-leno/#comment-233938</guid>
		<description>Write Ron Paul in regardless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Write Ron Paul in regardless.</p>
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		<title>By: David L.</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/31/st-paul-on-leno/#comment-233686</link>
		<dc:creator>David L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 03:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/31/st-paul-on-leno/#comment-233686</guid>
		<description>JJF,

Perhaps, as I already said twice, I don't think any candidate will be voting for in '08. Perhaps I'll just sleep in on election day, go to work and then go home to my family. Who are you going to vote for when Ron Paul's not on the ballot?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JJF,</p>
<p>Perhaps, as I already said twice, I don&#8217;t think any candidate will be voting for in &#8216;08. Perhaps I&#8217;ll just sleep in on election day, go to work and then go home to my family. Who are you going to vote for when Ron Paul&#8217;s not on the ballot?</p>
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		<title>By: jjf</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/31/st-paul-on-leno/#comment-233671</link>
		<dc:creator>jjf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 01:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/31/st-paul-on-leno/#comment-233671</guid>
		<description>David L:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Ron Paul may sound like a good, traditional conservative on many issues, but why do white supremacists, radical leftists, conspiracy theorists and Islamists like what they hear so much? It makes me suspicious.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I imagine for the same reasons pastors, teachers, doctors, lawyers, farmers, and mothers do.

I guess I don't understand this "I like his ideas but he's supported by the wrong kind of people" mentality.  Paul's message is limited Constitutional government and individual liberty.  All kinds of people may be attracted to that message -- some good, some bad, some you agree with, some you don't.  It is also, I would point out, the message of the American founders.  

They were well aware that the government they founded was meant for a certain kind of people -- a moral, responsible, religious people.  People who would govern themselves rather than be governed by the bayonet.  Perhaps you believe that we are no longer that people, and we need to be ruled by the bayonet.  Then Guiliani is your man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David L:</p>
<blockquote><p><i>Ron Paul may sound like a good, traditional conservative on many issues, but why do white supremacists, radical leftists, conspiracy theorists and Islamists like what they hear so much? It makes me suspicious.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>I imagine for the same reasons pastors, teachers, doctors, lawyers, farmers, and mothers do.</p>
<p>I guess I don&#8217;t understand this &#8220;I like his ideas but he&#8217;s supported by the wrong kind of people&#8221; mentality.  Paul&#8217;s message is limited Constitutional government and individual liberty.  All kinds of people may be attracted to that message &#8212; some good, some bad, some you agree with, some you don&#8217;t.  It is also, I would point out, the message of the American founders.  </p>
<p>They were well aware that the government they founded was meant for a certain kind of people &#8212; a moral, responsible, religious people.  People who would govern themselves rather than be governed by the bayonet.  Perhaps you believe that we are no longer that people, and we need to be ruled by the bayonet.  Then Guiliani is your man.</p>
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		<title>By: outkast</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/31/st-paul-on-leno/#comment-233547</link>
		<dc:creator>outkast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/31/st-paul-on-leno/#comment-233547</guid>
		<description>I'm with Kyle A on this one. I'll only vote for a presidential candidate who is willing to fight against the Islamic terrorist threat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Kyle A on this one. I&#8217;ll only vote for a presidential candidate who is willing to fight against the Islamic terrorist threat.</p>
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		<title>By: David L.</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/31/st-paul-on-leno/#comment-233523</link>
		<dc:creator>David L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/31/st-paul-on-leno/#comment-233523</guid>
		<description>JJF,

Ron Paul may sound like a good, traditional conservative on many issues, but why do white supremacists, radical leftists, conspiracy theorists and Islamists like what they hear so much? It makes me suspicious.

I would answer at more length, but I think this conversation is moot. He's not going to win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JJF,</p>
<p>Ron Paul may sound like a good, traditional conservative on many issues, but why do white supremacists, radical leftists, conspiracy theorists and Islamists like what they hear so much? It makes me suspicious.</p>
<p>I would answer at more length, but I think this conversation is moot. He&#8217;s not going to win.</p>
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		<title>By: Random Name</title>
		<link>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/31/st-paul-on-leno/#comment-233509</link>
		<dc:creator>Random Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/31/st-paul-on-leno/#comment-233509</guid>
		<description>I am a "single-issue voter." My issue is that no one should be President.

I am a hypocrite. I usually do vote, on the stupid basis of "Who is least bad."

Libertarians are probably the candidates most compatible with my single issue.

Actually, I am a liar too. My half an issue is tolerance for gay people. What is Ron's position on queers?

&lt;i&gt;Ron Paul: The Libertarian 

&lt;i&gt;Rep. Ron Paul of Texas sees the issu e of homosexuality, as he sees most things, through the lens of his strict interpretation of the Constitution. He believes that government's role is to stay out of the lives of citizens. It follows, therefore, that he is against a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. In fact, he is not even sure that government needs to be involved in marriage in the first place. "Marriage only came about, and getting licenses only came about -- in recent history for health reasons," said Paul, who is a medical doctor, in a "Values Voter Debate" on Sept. 17. "True Christians, I believe, believe that marriage is a church function, not a state function. It's not a state function. I don't think you need a license to get married. We should define it." 

&lt;i&gt;This door swings both ways. [so to speak] He is also against federal laws that could protect gays and lesbians from discrimination, including hate-crime laws and ENDA. He says the current Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy is "a decent policy." If Paul becomes president, it is a safe bet that he will not do much to help or hinder the cause of gay and lesbian rights. "All individuals have the right to their life if they do no harm," he said at the debate, before a deeply religious crowd. "You don't try to do a whole lot about it."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a &#8220;single-issue voter.&#8221; My issue is that no one should be President.</p>
<p>I am a hypocrite. I usually do vote, on the stupid basis of &#8220;Who is least bad.&#8221;</p>
<p>Libertarians are probably the candidates most compatible with my single issue.</p>
<p>Actually, I am a liar too. My half an issue is tolerance for gay people. What is Ron&#8217;s position on queers?</p>
<p><i>Ron Paul: The Libertarian </p>
<p></i><i>Rep. Ron Paul of Texas sees the issu e of homosexuality, as he sees most things, through the lens of his strict interpretation of the Constitution. He believes that government&#8217;s role is to stay out of the lives of citizens. It follows, therefore, that he is against a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. In fact, he is not even sure that government needs to be involved in marriage in the first place. &#8220;Marriage only came about, and getting licenses only came about &#8212; in recent history for health reasons,&#8221; said Paul, who is a medical doctor, in a &#8220;Values Voter Debate&#8221; on Sept. 17. &#8220;True Christians, I believe, believe that marriage is a church function, not a state function. It&#8217;s not a state function. I don&#8217;t think you need a license to get married. We should define it.&#8221; </p>
<p></i><i>This door swings both ways. [so to speak] He is also against federal laws that could protect gays and lesbians from discrimination, including hate-crime laws and ENDA. He says the current Don&#8217;t Ask, Don&#8217;t Tell policy is &#8220;a decent policy.&#8221; If Paul becomes president, it is a safe bet that he will not do much to help or hinder the cause of gay and lesbian rights. &#8220;All individuals have the right to their life if they do no harm,&#8221; he said at the debate, before a deeply religious crowd. &#8220;You don&#8217;t try to do a whole lot about it.&#8221;</i></p>
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